©2025 – Amy Morin, LCSW. All Rights Reserved
If you’ve ever sidestepped a tough conversation, ignored a problem, or avoided something that scares you, this episode is for you.
Avoidance and anxiety often go hand-on-hand. Avoiding a problem helps you feel better right now, but it leads to long-term problems. It also makes anxiety worse in the long run.
Today I’m joined by Dr. Robin Walser, clinical psychologist and expert in acceptance and commitment therapy. Together, we explore why we avoid, how it impacts our mental health, and—most importantly—how to break free from the avoidance cycle.
Some of the things we talk about are:
"Avoidance is a natural response to discomfort…but over time, it can shrink our lives." - Dr. Robyn Walser
"I think of suffering as the fight against yourself, not as the things that you're experiencing." - Dr. Robyn Walser
"Would you be willing to feel the pain in the service of having something meaningful?" - Dr. Robyn Walser
"It's about being present to your emotional experience...that is what makes us mentally stronger." - Dr. Robyn Walser
"Sometimes the very emotional thing that you're running from has a message for you." - Dr. Robyn Walser
0:00 Overcoming Avoidance to Build Mental Strength
2:23 Understanding Avoidance of Emotional Pain and Trauma
4:29 Embracing Emotional Experiences Through Acceptance and Commitment Therapy
9:43 How to Overcome Fear and Building Resilience
18:43 How to Face Discomfort for Personal Growth and Authentic Living
24:52 How to Recognize Recognize Avoidance in Your Life
28:16 Why Vulnerability Is Essential for Mental Strength
34:16 How to Overcome Avoidance by Connecting With Values
Subscribe to Mentally Stronger Premium for exclusive content like bonus episodes, signed books, and 30-day challenges that will keep you growing stronger.
HoneyLove — Save 20% Off Honeylove by going to honeylove.com/STRONGER #honeylovepod
CocoaVia — Get 20% off with code Amy2025 at cocoavia.com.
OneSkin — Get 15% off OneSkin with the code STRONGER at https://www.oneskin.co/
Quince – Go to Quince.com/stronger for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns!
ZocDoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/STRONGER to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today!
Shopify — Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at Shopify.com/mentallystronger
Life Kit — Listen to the Life Kit podcast from NPR.
Mentally Strong App — Take your mental strength to the next level with Amy’s Mentally Strong App.