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267 — The Surprising Truth About Stress and Why Trying to Relax Is Making You Feel Worse with Dr. Rebecca Heiss

November 24, 2025
Mentally Stronger Dr. Rebecca Heiss Amy Morin

Do you feel like you’re constantly battling stress or that you’re stressed out all the time? Do attempts to relax backfire and cause you to feel even worse? If so, today’s episode is for you.
 
My guest today is Dr. Rebecca Heiss, a stress physiologist who says we can change the way stress affects us. In fact, she says we can turn our biological responses to stress into an advantage once we know how.
 
Some of the things we discuss are:
 

  • Why you should stop trying to get rid of your stress
  • Why believing stress is bad for you might actually kill you
  • Why animals don’t get stressed out
  • How to trick your brain into making stress an advantage
  • Why avoiding stressful situations often causes more anxiety than facing them
  • The role of oxytocin as a “courage hormone” and the importance of connection
  • How to use a “catastrophe diary” to manage negative thinking
  • Why service to others is the only thing that truly mitigates stress
  • Practical ways to reframe your routine instead of just adding stress-reduction tasks
  • Why curiosity and fear cannot coexist

 

Key Takeaways:

 

  • Stress as a Competitive Advantage: Stress doesn’t need to be eliminated. When it’s channeled effectively, it can improve performance.
  • Perception of Stress Affects Health Outcomes: How we perceive stress can significantly influence our physical health. Believing stress can be beneficial actually lowers mortality rates.
  • Small Steps Toward Problem-Solving: Tackle stress by addressing problems incrementally rather than avoiding them, reframing stress as an opportunity for growth.
  • Importance of Service to Others: Helping other people is key to reducing stress. 
  • Curiosity and Connection in Stress Reduction: Embrace curiosity and seek support when you’re under stress. 

Notable Quotes:

"The only people that have zero stress are dead people."

"Stress is really a barometer for how much we care."

"Our bodies release an almost identical hormonal cocktail when we are stressed out as when we are excited."

"This isn't about having too much stress or too little. It is about how we think about stress."

Timestamp Summary

0:00 Why Stress Might Give You a Competitive Advantage and Better Health

6:22 The Surprising Role Stress Plays in Meaningful Lives

11:38 How to Reframe Stress as a Tool for Performance and Joy

17:22 How to Manage Stress With Curiosity and Connection

19:11 How to Overcome Avoidance and Stress Through Small Steps

23:50 How to Process Stressful Situations With Writing

25:57 Why You Should Consider the Best and Worst Case Scenarios

26:48 The One Thing That Instantly Reduces Stress

31:31 How to Turn Stress Into Positive Action

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