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Do you have someone in your life who only calls when they need something? Maybe it’s the relative who always goes from one crisis to the next, the friend who vents for an hour and never asks how you’re doing, or the coworker who treats you like their personal therapist.
You care about them but you feel drained by them too. Fortunately, you can show real empathy while also setting boundaries. And this might be the best thing for both you and the other person.
My guest today is Dr. D. Ivan Young, a master certified coach and empathy expert. His new book is Leading from the Heart, and in this conversation he breaks down how to show up for the people you love without losing yourself in the process.
Some of the things we discuss are:
"Empathy means you don't have to solve the problem, and you don't have to offer condolences. Instead, you can empower people to make their own choices while giving them the support they need." - Amy Morin
"We live in a performative culture. We've adjusted more to how we want to appear than how things actually are." - Dr. D. Ivan Young
"Be curious, but be sincerely curious. Be fascinated." - Dr. D. Ivan Young
0:00 The Worst Thing You Can Say to Someone Who Just Got Bad News
3:04 The Voice Dr. D Heard After His Cancer Diagnosis That Changed Everything
8:53 The Drowning Test: Are You Actually Being Empathetic, or Just Watching?
11:15 "I Have Enough Problems" — Why Empathy Is Actually Selfish (in a Good Way)
12:44 The One Sentence That Instantly Defuses a Tense Meeting
16:47 The Sign You're Overdue to Set a Boundary (Most People Miss It)
22:50 Why You Feel Guilty Saying No — and How to Stop
27:03 The Friend Who Calls With the Same Complaint Every Week — Try This
28:30 The Two-Boat Trick That Cracks Open Any Moody Teenager
36:39 The Grieving Neighbor: Why Saying Less Says More
43:45 The IMAX Effect: How Empathy Turns Life From Black-and-White to 3D
47:29 The Therapist Take: 3 Empathy Moves That Make You Mentally Stronger
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