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Have you ever told someone, “I’m not an optimist, I’m a realist” because the whole “good vibes only” thing seems irritating, and you don’t want to set yourself up for disappointment?
A lot of us brace for the worst on purpose. We think if we expect the worst, we’ll either be right or pleasantly surprised. But bracing for disaster can be bad for your health.
My guest today is Dr. Deepika Chopra — a clinical health psychologist known as The Optimism Doctor® and the author of The Power of Real Optimism.
Some of the things we discuss are:
"Real optimism doesn't deny the dark. It gives us the tools to see within it."
"One of the biggest myths about optimism is that you always feel good when you're optimistic."
"Real optimism is actually someone who's very grounded in reality."
"If you imagine something, then your brain sees it as a possibility."
0:00 "I'm Not an Optimist, I'm a Realist"—Why You Can Actually Be Both
4:44 What Real Optimism Actually Is (and Why It Starts With Struggle)
7:40 The Fine Line Between Hope, Optimism, and Toxic Positivity
17:40 The Surprising Physical Toll of Always Expecting the Worst
22:25 Why the Optimism Doctor Panics Over Every Message From Her Doctor
27:56 The "Ta-Da List" That Rewires Your Brain in One Minute Before Bed
35:14 The Zoom-Out Trick That Beats Anxiety Better Than Gratitude
42:21 The Therapist's Take: 3 Ways to Build Real Optimism Today
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