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You probably grew up learning that compliance is a good thing. And you might assume you know when to break the rules — like if you’re asked to do something unethical or immoral. However, research shows we often underestimate how likely we are to go with the flow or follow directions, even when those actions go against our values.
Dr. Sunita Sah is an award-winning professor at Cornell University and an expert in organizational psychology. She has spent years studying the psychological impact of compliance and defiance. She’s also the author of Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands a Yes.
Some of the things we discuss are:
“To defy is simply to act in accordance with your true values when there is pressure to do otherwise.” – Dr. Sunita Sah
“Surprise disables defiance, whereas anticipation helps defiance.” – Dr. Sunita Sah
“Compliance is not our destiny…defiance is a skill that we all can choose to use.” – Dr. Sunita Sah
“You don’t have to be brave to be defiant; you can be motivated by your values or fear of inaction.” – Dr. Sunita Sah
“It’s a more joyful, more honest, more authentic life when you’re defiant.” – Dr. Sunita Sah
0:00 The Positive Power of Defiance in Everyday Life
7:19 Building Defiance Muscles to Align Actions with Values
19:59 The Gap Between Self-Perception and Actual Behavior
22:58 Practicing Defiance Through Values and Curiosity
27:47 A Mother’s Defiance Against Racism in Yorkshire
30:22 Embracing Defiance as a Path to Mental Strength
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